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Certains sites Wiki au contenu libre utilisent la [http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html GNU Free Documentation License] pour leurs publications. Pour Wikitravel, cette licence be conviens pas a nos [[Project:buts et non buts|buts]], nous avons donc choisis une autre licence a la place. cette page essaye d'expliquer pourquoi.
Certains sites Wiki au contenu libre utilisent la [http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html GNU Free Documentation License] pour leurs publications. Pour Wikitravel, cette licence ne conviens pas a nos [[Project:buts et non buts|buts]], nous avons donc choisis une autre licence a la place. cette page essaye d'expliquer pourquoi.


La GFDL a été dévelopé to support making Free Content versions of software manuals, textbooks, and other large references. Its requirements for what you have to distribute with a document under the GFDL -- such a copy of the GFDL and a changelog, as well as "transparent" (i.e. source) versions if you distribute over 100 copies -- aren't really all that onerous for large volumes of text.
La GFDL a été dévelopé to support making Free Content versions of software manuals, textbooks, and other large references. Its requirements for what you have to distribute with a document under the GFDL -- such a copy of the GFDL and a changelog, as well as "transparent" (i.e. source) versions if you distribute over 100 copies -- aren't really all that onerous for large volumes of text.


Mais pour Wikitravel, nous voulons vraiment que chaque article soit redistribuable "on its own"??. Certains articles de Wikitravel sont suffisamment petit pour étre imprimé sur un ou deux pages. For such small documents, it just doesn't make sense to require people to pass out another 10 pages of legalese text, as well as floppy disks or CDs full of [[Project:Wiki markup|Wiki markup]].
Mais pour Wikitravel, nous voulons vraiment que chaque article soit re-distribuable "on its own"??. Certains articles de Wikitravel sont suffisamment petit pour étre imprimé sur un ou deux pages. For such small documents, it just doesn't make sense to require people to pass out another 10 pages of legalese text, as well as floppy disks or CDs full of [[Project:Wiki markup|Wiki markup]].


Il faut penser au petit "imprimeurs" qui peuvent distribuer des pilles de photocopie d'articles de Wikitravel:
Il faut penser au petit "imprimeurs" qui peuvent distribuer des pilles de photocopie d'articles de Wikitravel:
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*Wedding or event planners
*Wedding or event planners


Surcharger ces imprimeurs avec des restrictions prévue pour les documentations de logiciels ou pour des livres, signifirait, soit qu'ils ignoreront notre licence -- ce qui n'est pas notre interet -- ou, plus probable, ils n'utiliseront tout simplement pas notre travail.
Surcharger ces imprimeurs avec des restrictions prévue pour les documentations de logiciels ou pour des livres, signifierait, soit qu'ils ignoreront notre licence -- ce qui n'est pas notre intérêt -- ou, plus probable, ils n'utiliseront tout simplement pas notre travail.


We make our content Free so we can collaborate on this wiki, but also because we want it to be seen and used. We can't serve travellers with useful information if they can't get to that information in the first place.
We make our content Free so we can collaborate on this wiki, but also because we want it to be seen and used. We can't serve travellers with useful information if they can't get to that information in the first place.


==A lightweight alternative==
==Une alternative légère==


La lisense que nous avons choisis, la Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 1.0, est beaucoup plus simple et more lightweight. We think that using the Attribution-ShareAlike 1.0 license (by-sa) meets our goal of having [[Project:copyleft|copyleft]] protection on Wikitravel content, without putting an excessive burden on small publishers. All that needs to be included are copyright notices and the URL of the license; this can be done in a short paragraph at the end of the article.
La licence que nous avons choisis, la Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 1.0, est beaucoup plus simple et more lightweight. We think that using the Attribution-ShareAlike 1.0 license (by-sa) meets our goal of having [[Project:copyleft|copyleft]] protection on Wikitravel content, without putting an excessive burden on small publishers. All that needs to be included are copyright notices and the URL of the license; this can be done in a short paragraph at the end of the article.


The big downside of not using the GFDL is that GFDL content --comme les articles de Wikipédia -- '''ne peuvent pas''' êtres inclus dans des articles de Wikitravel. This is a restriction of the GFDL -- you're not allowed to change the license for the content, unless you're the original copyright holder. This is kind of a pain for contributors, but we figured it was better to make it easy for users and distributors to comply with our license.
The big downside of not using the GFDL is that GFDL content --comme les articles de Wikipédia -- '''ne peuvent pas''' êtres inclus dans des articles de Wikitravel. This is a restriction of the GFDL -- you're not allowed to change the license for the content, unless you're the original copyright holder. This is kind of a pain for contributors, but we figured it was better to make it easy for users and distributors to comply with our license.


Creative Commons is planning to issue a new revision of their suite of licenses some time in the winter of 2003-2004. Compatibility with other Free licenses is "a top priority", and we can expect that some time after that version change, articles created on Wikitravel can be distributed under the GFDL. So, even though we can't include GFDL work into Wikitravel, other Free Content authors can include Wikitravel content into their work.
Creative Commons prévoie de sortire un nouvelle version de leurs différentes licences courent 2004. Compatibility with other Free licenses is "la priorité n°1", and we can expect that some time after that version change, articles created on Wikitravel can be distributed under the GFDL. So, even though we can't include GFDL work into Wikitravel, other Free Content authors can include Wikitravel content into their work.


==Autres options==
==Autres options==


Si pour vous ne pas mettre vos contributions sous GFDL est inacceptable, et que vous ne pouvez pas attendres quelques mois jusqu'a la nouvelle version de la "by-sa"?? sorte qui sera compatible avec la GFDL, il y a plusieurs possibilitées.
Si pour vous ne pas mettre vos contributions sous GFDL est inacceptable, et que vous ne pouvez pas attendre quelques mois jusqu'à ce que la nouvelle version de la "by-sa"?? sorte, qui sera compatible avec la GFDL, il y a plusieurs possibilités.


*Vous pouvez contacter la [http://www.fsf.org/ Free Software Foundation] (FSF), authors of the GFDL, and [http://www.creativecommons.org/ Creative Commons], authors of the by-sa license, and let them know that the fact that their licenses don't mix is causing you difficulty.
*Vous pouvez contacter la [http://www.fsf.org/ Free Software Foundation] (FSF), authors of the GFDL, and [http://www.creativecommons.org/ Creative Commons], authors of the by-sa license, and let them know that the fact that their licenses don't mix is causing you difficulty.

Version du 26 février 2004 à 13:10

Certains sites Wiki au contenu libre utilisent la GNU Free Documentation License pour leurs publications. Pour Wikitravel, cette licence ne conviens pas a nos buts, nous avons donc choisis une autre licence a la place. cette page essaye d'expliquer pourquoi.

La GFDL a été dévelopé to support making Free Content versions of software manuals, textbooks, and other large references. Its requirements for what you have to distribute with a document under the GFDL -- such a copy of the GFDL and a changelog, as well as "transparent" (i.e. source) versions if you distribute over 100 copies -- aren't really all that onerous for large volumes of text.

Mais pour Wikitravel, nous voulons vraiment que chaque article soit re-distribuable "on its own"??. Certains articles de Wikitravel sont suffisamment petit pour étre imprimé sur un ou deux pages. For such small documents, it just doesn't make sense to require people to pass out another 10 pages of legalese text, as well as floppy disks or CDs full of Wiki markup.

Il faut penser au petit "imprimeurs" qui peuvent distribuer des pilles de photocopie d'articles de Wikitravel:

  • Les offices de tourisme locales
  • Les hôtels ou les ??guesthouses??
  • Helpful travellers
  • Professeurs
  • Exchange student programs
  • Wedding or event planners

Surcharger ces imprimeurs avec des restrictions prévue pour les documentations de logiciels ou pour des livres, signifierait, soit qu'ils ignoreront notre licence -- ce qui n'est pas notre intérêt -- ou, plus probable, ils n'utiliseront tout simplement pas notre travail.

We make our content Free so we can collaborate on this wiki, but also because we want it to be seen and used. We can't serve travellers with useful information if they can't get to that information in the first place.

Une alternative légère

La licence que nous avons choisis, la Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 1.0, est beaucoup plus simple et more lightweight. We think that using the Attribution-ShareAlike 1.0 license (by-sa) meets our goal of having copyleft protection on Wikitravel content, without putting an excessive burden on small publishers. All that needs to be included are copyright notices and the URL of the license; this can be done in a short paragraph at the end of the article.

The big downside of not using the GFDL is that GFDL content --comme les articles de Wikipédia -- ne peuvent pas êtres inclus dans des articles de Wikitravel. This is a restriction of the GFDL -- you're not allowed to change the license for the content, unless you're the original copyright holder. This is kind of a pain for contributors, but we figured it was better to make it easy for users and distributors to comply with our license.

Creative Commons prévoie de sortire un nouvelle version de leurs différentes licences courent 2004. Compatibility with other Free licenses is "la priorité n°1", and we can expect that some time after that version change, articles created on Wikitravel can be distributed under the GFDL. So, even though we can't include GFDL work into Wikitravel, other Free Content authors can include Wikitravel content into their work.

Autres options

Si pour vous ne pas mettre vos contributions sous GFDL est inacceptable, et que vous ne pouvez pas attendre quelques mois jusqu'à ce que la nouvelle version de la "by-sa"?? sorte, qui sera compatible avec la GFDL, il y a plusieurs possibilités.

  • Vous pouvez contacter la Free Software Foundation (FSF), authors of the GFDL, and Creative Commons, authors of the by-sa license, and let them know that the fact that their licenses don't mix is causing you difficulty.
  • Vous pouvez utiliser la double licence pour vos participations, la "by-sa"?? et la GFDL. Notez que cela complique la collaboration entre Wikitvoyageurs, and requires some attention by you to the stipulations of the GFDL.
  • You can choose not to contribute to Wikitravel. We're sorry our goals don't align with yours, but we hope you can make a contribution somewhere else!